Defensive Shooting for Real-Life Encounters: A Critical Look at Current Training Methods

  Author:    Ralph Mroz
  ISBN:    1581600941
  Sales Rank:    252321
  Published:    2000-09
  Publisher:    Paladin Press
  # Pages:    152
  Binding:    Paperback
  Avg. Rating:    4.0 based on 13 reviews
  Used Offers:    7 from $10.71
  Amazon Price:    $12.24
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Defensive Shooting for Real-Life Encounters: A Critical Look at Current Training Methods
  
In this insightful analysis of shooting and fighting instruction, noted firearms expert Ralph Mroz examines the myths and misinformation that plague the gun community. From the five deadly training traps to unrealistic training exercises to concealed-carry mistakes, Mroz offers solutions to help defensive shooters snap out of their routines and become better and safer with their firearms. Mroz, whose articles have appeared in Combat Handguns and Guns magazines, takes a no-nonsense approach to such topics as the need for empty-hands skills, range training vs. real-world training, the problem of range standards, understanding and developing startle recovery, and more.
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07-06-08 1 (NA)
(Hide Review...)  Worthless
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I was thrown by the title. It talks very little about actual defensive shooting and it doesn't take a critical look at current training methods, it just complains about all of them. If you pay more than a dollar for this book, you wasted your money.
(Review Data Last Updated: 2008-10-07 10:13:18 EST)
05-29-08 5 (NA)
(Hide Review...)  A Vital Addition to Every Gun Library
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Yes, Mroz is critical: he needs to be! His thoughts on what works and what doesn't in the real world, and on how our training methods do or don't reflect that, are priceless. Sometimes he is cynical, and sometimes he is rude, but he is always thoughtful, sharp, and focused on keeping YOU alive. Even if you don't agree with everything Mroz says, you owe it to yourself to read this. It is not a training manual; it is a critique of current training methods, and if you are at all intelligent and thoughtful yourself, you will quickly draw specific, useful conclusions from it for use in your own training. Highly recommended!
(Review Data Last Updated: 2008-07-07 05:03:24 EST)
08-15-07 3 (NA)
(Hide Review...)  Too Critical - Offers little suggestions for improvement
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This is one of those books that cuts down everything you see in handgun training, but offers little in the way of improvements. I did not get a lot of constructive information out of this book, but rather a lot of what is wrong, but little on how to fix it. I read the book twice, and gave it away.
(Review Data Last Updated: 2008-05-30 07:33:43 EST)
07-04-07 5 (NA)
(Hide Review...)  good read
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Thumbs up to Mroz for his essay about the uselessness of a tactical reload. One cannot resist but laugh at its utter stupidity until one realizes it is there to make instructors seem as worth your buck.
(Review Data Last Updated: 2007-08-15 04:11:56 EST)
02-10-07 5 1\1
(Hide Review...)  Fantastic Reading
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This book forced me to think about shooting, training, and more in a different way: how can I make it work rather than how can I pass. Let's face it, passing is one thing; surviving is another. There are plenty of techniques that show you how to shoot targets. There are less that can show you how to live. While Mroz does not share the techniques with you, he sure makes you second-guess the ones you currently use. And that is a good thing because that second-guessing of training may save your life.
(Review Data Last Updated: 2007-07-04 23:49:16 EST)
12-11-06 4 2\2
(Hide Review...)  An Excellent Critique of Training Methods
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This book is intended for instructors and those who view firearms from a martial arts perspective (not sport shooting). May be confusing for those who are not familiar with some of the common names/training methods: i.e. Farnam, Stanford, Suarez, Ayoob, etc...

Mroz asks questions and offers his opinions. He covers a wide variety of issues that are relevant to anyone who trains with firearms; the problem with range standards, five deadly training traps, limits of practical match training, myths of concealed carry, etc...

This book was not written to provide answers, but to make you think. That said, there are definitely some pearls of wisdom in here. For example, in the last chapter, Bert DuVernay says "There are no misses on the street. There are only unintended targets. Every bullet we launch hits something." Not a novel thought, but I like the way he said it.

A relatively short book (148 pages) that can be read in one or two sittings. He provides some footnotes to his chapters. A comprehensive reference list or recommended reading/viewing list is not included and would have made this book much better.
(Review Data Last Updated: 2007-06-28 01:48:12 EST)
12-10-06 4 1\1
(Hide Review...)  An Excellent Critique of Training Methods
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This book is intended for instructors and those who view firearms from a martial arts perspective (not sport shooting). May be confusing for those who are not familiar with some of the common names/training methods: i.e. Farnam, Stanford, Suarez, Ayoob, etc...

Mroz asks questions and offers his opinions. He covers a wide variety of issues that are relevant to anyone who trains with firearms; the problem with range standards, five deadly training traps, limits of practical match training, myths of concealed carry, etc...

This book was not written to provide answers, but to make you think. That said, there are definitely some pearls of wisdom in here. For example, in the last chapter, Bert DuVernay says "There are no misses on the street. There are only unintended targets. Every bullet we launch hits something." Not a novel thought, but I like the way he said it.

A relatively short book (148 pages) that can be read in one or two sittings. He provides some footnotes to his chapters. A comprehensive reference list or recommended reading/viewing list is not included and would have made this book much better.
(Review Data Last Updated: 2007-02-10 02:13:45 EST)
06-26-06 3 3\5
(Hide Review...)  More opinion than training manual
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This is an essay on the authors opinion about the current training methods. It is interesting and I agree with many of his points; but if you are looking for training material look elsewhere.
(Review Data Last Updated: 2007-06-28 01:48:12 EST)
09-09-05 5 32\33
(Hide Review...)  Puts my training in perspective!
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Training is synthetic experience. This fake experience is valuable because greater feedback is possible, telling me exactly what happened in the clinical training session. This "play " is inexpensive compared to the real thing-nobody is supposed to really die or become crippled, and the safety rules prevent criminal and civil charges when followed. Training is great stuff because training can focus in on a specific aspect of life, an aspect that happens too rarely to otherwise gain enough real-world experience, such as exchanging gunfire with an armed opponent, and the trainee can experience handling this situation successfully. Training is great-but it is phony!

Ralph Mroz points this out in different words. His "Defensive Shooting for Real-Life Encounters" is not a recipe book of handgun techniques, but a yardstick to measure a training program. This book may go over the head of the casual shooter, someone who is seeking only the minimum training required for professional certification (a majority of our professional police) and most of the private citizens who carry concealed handguns for self-protection. These casual shooters' needs don't include self-criticism and introspection-they have a specific goal and just want a cheap, simple way to reach the goal. Mroz is also certain to alienate many because he reminds us that not only is training NOT "real-life," but that it cannot be. As many gun people have invested thousands of dollars and years gaining measurable skills that they can perform upon demand-on a structured shooting range-being told that their skills are not always the right answer is going to hurt their feelings. Mroz states that most self-defense shootings happen at hand-to-hand combat distances; on page 63 he wrote that 54% of gunfights happen at 5 feet or less and 74% happen at less than 10 feet. Then he turns around and states in the footnote that some of the shooting data is based upon self-reports and may not be entirely truthful or accurate.

For the serious (obsessed?) student of the gun, "Defensive Shooting for Real-Life Encounters" is a gold mine. Miners know that a lot of gravel has to be moved to get a handful of nuggets. This book's information can't really be used directly as a training blueprint or a performance yardstick. The 74% of gunfights at 10 feet or less figure I quoted above doesn't take into account the dynamics of a lethal force encounter-that the participants don't just stand at a set distance from each other, but they move, sometimes several miles at high speeds. Ever hear of a freeway shootout between two speeding cars? Mroz writes of gun-FIGHTING rather than shooting because often, at these close distances, the defender has no chance to use his gun and has to rely on running or empty-hand techniques to create enough space. Mroz doesn't call the skills imparted by intense competitive shooting useless. Instead, he points out that the performance envelope for those skilled at these games is limited and that real-life lethal-force encounters take place outside of this envelope. Here's and example: virtually no shooting schools permit their student shooters to shoot at moving targets or targets closer than 9 feet-in real-life encounters, most "targets" move (and move AT the shooter with deadly intent, else shooting isn't justified) and there's that 74% of shooting incidents taking place at less than 10 feet figure again.

On Page 51, the chapter that includes point shooting is worth the price of the book. I was introduced to point shooting by Rex Applegate's "Kill or Get Killed" and I learned to shoot by using a cheap BB gun. When I read the controversy about point shooting versus "aimed fire," I was mildly amused. Mroz not only settles the issue (use both, depending upon the situation), but he details the strengths and weaknesses of both, discusses the psychological and physiological factors involved, and then in his examination of police departments who successfully use point shooting instruction to better their street shooting results, reveals the real secret of success: lots of realistic practice. If you train to a performance standard that is related to real-world incidents, you are better prepared for those incidents.

Mroz covers subjects including shoes and eyeglasses. How much detail can you get from 148 pages, anyway? This book is a primer on THINKING. One thing which can upset readers is that many of us buy a book to get the answer to questions such as "what is the meaning of life?" Since real life isn't a fully-instrumented laboratory, there are going to be a lot of unknowns. If you don't know the questions, how are you going to find the answers? "Defensive Shooting for Real-Life Encounters" is a series of questions that I'm going to use to re-examine my own training programs. Besides, in my case Mroz validated much of what I've been doing for years. For example, due to safety concerns and feedback issues I use Air Soft "toy guns" for close-quarter shooting exercises. I also insist upon referees for force-on-force training, and when I can, I videotape training. The street does have video cameras (remember Rodney King?), but referees only intervene afterwards-in the courtroom. In training, the referee is there for safety (training is synthetic experience) and to provide performance feedback. Still, nobody's perfect!
(Review Data Last Updated: 2007-06-28 01:48:12 EST)
03-03-04 5 27\27
(Hide Review...)  A Workable Combination of Bare Hands and Handguns
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I have been in the field of self defense combining handguns and barehand methods of close combat since 1978. I have worked at many crime scenes where homicides had taken place. If some of the victims had the knowledge found in Defensive Shooting for Real Life Encounters I am sure that they would not have ended up as victims. Much of the information is very workable for serious self protection. There are not enough books on the subject of combining the two disciplines of handgun shooting and hand to hand combat. I recommend this book to anyone who takes their self protection seriously. I teach some other methods of close combat firearms use and hand to hand but there can never be enough quality instruction out there for the honest citizen or law enforcement officers who are in the front lines every day. I also recommend the titles, Shooting to Live, and No Second Place Winner. Good luck out there.
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06-27-03 5 27\28
(Hide Review...)  A very good intermediate to advanced level book.
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A very good intermediate to advanced level book.

Mroz is not dogmatic. His writing tends to show shades of gray rather than absolutes. The book provides some very interesting discussion on reacting to real events that trigger the startle reaction, point-shooting and aimed fire (This is an area where he really provides a fair and frank discussion without falling into the "always" or "never" trap.) and gunfighting at arms-length and closer. This final topic is really where I found the book most useful. He describes a number of popular methods and techniques with pros and cons for each of them. In reading, it became obvious that he has recruited helpers and actually tried most of the techniques. His discussion provides not only a toolbox of extreme close-quarter technique but tested advantages and disadvanteges of each tool.

(Review Data Last Updated: 2007-06-28 01:48:12 EST)
03-25-03 4 27\29
(Hide Review...)  A thought provoking book
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This book is not intended for those who are into shooting as a sport, but for those who approach it as a martial art. For the latter people, this book should be mandatory reading. Actually, this book is not about tactics in a real-life shootings, it's about how we should train to prepare for such an event.

In the book, Ralph Mroz sheds a new light to several established "truths" on the field of combat handgunning. His aim is to look things from a new perspective, and to find flaws in established state of the art techniques and tactics. The most interesting parts of the book are those where Mroz compares different styles (for example, point shooting versus sighted fire, or different styles of close quarters shooting), and weights their pros and cons.

In the book, Mroz does not try to give the answers, he just wants to point out the common mistakes in trainig. On the other hand this is a good thing, because there is not an impression that Mroz is advocating a trainig system of his own. On the other hand, the book would be more complete, if it gave also solutions to the problems it reveales. Now about the only solutuion Mroz gives is to include force on force -exercises and role playing to training.

There is not any reference section in the book. On some footnotes Mroz gives the source (mainly when it is published by Paladin Press, which is the publisher of this book also), but there are many sources which Mroz does not address fully (e.g. he tells the name of the author, but not the name of the publication). This gives a slight impression of bias, which in a sad thing because the book is otherwise so unbiased, and is not bound to any school of thought.

(Review Data Last Updated: 2006-09-09 02:14:11 EST)
03-06-02 5 15\16
(Hide Review...)  Excellent Info for All Shooters!
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In order to refine or methods we have to question what we already know. Sometimes this involves adding certain things to our training and removing other things that just aren't practical. Mroz makes you take a long, hard look at common training methods. Great book for combat shooters. I've read it twice! (Sine Pari)
(Review Data Last Updated: 2006-09-09 02:14:11 EST)
07-12-01 5 36\36
(Hide Review...)  Honestly, how realistic is YOUR training?
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FINALLY! Someone who is not chained to any one school of thought and attempts to conform reality to training instead of the opposite! I am a Firearms/Defense Tactics instructor (both for law enforcement and civilian) and have become conscious on how unrealistic many "defense" training is (be it firearms or empty hand).

I have studied countless real-life incidents of deadly force attacks on both officers of the law, and civilians, and have been training others and myself for such possible scenarios. There are great flaws in many "systems" taught by today's Gurus. Ralph Mroz, the author, outlines these flaws and gives the reader a "reality check".

In this book, Mr. Mroz describes how different philosophy of training (martial arts, weapon craft, etc.) forms a different (and many times only one aspect) point of view on the potential threats one may face. A martial artist envisions a single unarmed mugger (maybe wielding a knife at the most) and a gunfighter prepares for armed and multiple attackers. The problem is that we all live in the same world and can face a multitude of dangers. Stop looking at the world through a martial artist's colored glasses or gunfighter's colored glasses.

Mr. Mroz stresses on how we must train for situations that may require unarmed AND armed solutions. As the saying goes, "If all you have is a hammer, every problem begins to look like a nail". If you find yourself being assaulted at contact distance, and your gun is still holstered, you are better off resorting to proper empty-hand techniques.

One must always strive to make their training as realistic as possible, this means going beyond punching holes in paper targets. Mr. Mroz explains. The author covers close-range Point Shooting, something some "modern" schools scoff at because it does not fit in to their doctrine (BUT IT WORKS!). Another chapter to ruffle some feathers (and open some eyes) is the "Five Deadly Training Traps".

It is so refreshing to read someone who has broken out of the mold. I hope Mr. Mroz continues his writing in the truth in combat training and publishes more books of this nature.

(Review Data Last Updated: 2006-01-16 05:22:02 EST)
  
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